If I've won, if I've lost A film byGian Luca Rossi

Alberto, Giampiero and Sergio are just three kids when in 1982 they founded the punk-rock band KINA, in the small mountain town of Aosta, Italy.


From then to 1997, they became one of the leading groups of the Italian and European independent music scene, carrying on a rigorous musical and existential path, based on the concepts of self-production and self-management, recording a dozen of fundamental records in the history of international hardcore punk.


These are years of endless travel across Europe on a shabby van, sharing the alternative life experiences and the battles that animate the anarchist and antagonist movement: the struggle for home and for social spaces; the anti-militarism cause; the refusal of nuclear power; the anti-fascist resistance.
Then, like all stories, their partnership ends too. The paths of life that everyone has taken, are no longer compatible with the commitment and energies that the KINA project requires: work, children, new interests and new horizons require different existential choices and trajectories.
Today those three provincial kids have become fifty-year-olds, with their professions, their passions, their families. The story they lived together and made them grow, is what they bring with them in everyday life. Without certainties and with the doubts of a generation that grew up between the hopes of the 70s and the disillusionment of the following decades.
Looking back at them, those years seem to carry the question that suggested the title of the most successful KINA album: SE HO VINTO SE HO PERSO, if I’ve won if I’ve lost….




Director Statement

There are stories that deserve to be told.
Some you discover one day, by chance. And the next day you are ready to face them. To give them a shape. So it was with my last job, Mare Carbone.
Others need time. They stay there, in the memory drawer. They stratify, open to different points of view, mature in silence, without you noticing. They change, while you are changing. They grow up with you. Until, at a point in your path, you feel that the moment has come. That that story belongs to you and telling it also means a little telling yourself. Then, doing it becomes a need.
This is the case with If I won if I lost.
I have been thinking for years about the history – the little legend – of the Kina, to make a film about them. And over time the desire grew, it became more urgent. Only one thing was missing: the key that did not reduce the film to a simple musical documentary, which would then have been the greatest possible betrayal towards them: because what makes KINA really interesting – at times unique – in the European underground panorama , is precisely the impossibility of separating music from life, the need for expression from daily commitment. It could not be reduced to “a prominent group of the international punk scene”. Their specificity is not there.
And you couldn’t tell the whole thing with detachment, without getting involved …




Los Angeles Punk Film Festival Best Foreign Documentary 2021 Takt Film Festival - Serbia Best Documentary - Best Sound-design 2021 PerSo – Perugia Social Film Festival - Italy Audience Award 2021 Festival de Cine Indipendiente Sendependa - Spain Best Documentary 2021 Bardolino Film Festival Mention of the Jury 2021


with KINA:

Gianpiero Capra
Sergio Milani
Alberto Ventrella

production Korova Audiovisivi
with the support of Film Commission Vda

direction, script and editing: Gian Luca Rossi
assistant directors: Margherita Sergi, Gianni Vivaldo
camera and sound recording: Gian Luca Rossi, Giacomo Berthet, Margherita Sergi, Gianni Vivaldo, Luca Bich, Filippo Maria Pontiggia

sound design: Raffaele “Neda” D'Anello (Meat Beat Studio)

RegiaGian Luca Rossi ProducerKorova Audiovisivi GenresDocumentary, Music Length 78' Year 2020 Country Italy Format HD Tag Gian Luca Rossi / Kina / musica / punk italiano
poster SE HO VINTO palmine